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#1 Debbie

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Posted 07 January 2011 - 01:08 AM

Is there a certain brand of kibble and canned dog food that would benefit Jammies with her heart problems? I've been reading the threads about different brands of dog foods and I must admit I am very confused. Any help would be appreciated!
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Posted 07 January 2011 - 08:42 AM

Debbie, has your vet or Jammie's cardiologist recommended any particular diet? Regular diet ?? diet high in one thing ?? or low in another?

Off hand, I think a high-quality kibble, canned or other that benefits their health overall will ultimately result in heart health as well. http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com would be a good place to start to determine where your present kibble rates and maybe help in choosing another. Hopefully someone else can chime in and offer you some recommendations.
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Posted 08 January 2011 - 12:37 PM

http://www.dogfoodanalysis.com


"What we look for in pet foods:
Meat, meat and more meat products."
Be aware that a high-protein diet may not be appropriate for every dog, not matter what health problems they may or may not have. It is one of the options and opinions available. That being said, I think this site is very useful in their lower-ranked foods. There might just be some room for shuffle at the top tier based on your own dog's needs.

Outside of what a specialist would recommend, I agree that a high-quality kibble of any type will help. Look for a label that has real, identifiable food in it (like "Chicken" or "Chicken meal" and not "Animal By-Product meal").

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 12:58 PM

Neither our vet or the cardiologist recommended any special diet for Jammies. The cardiologist more or less said to take her home and let her live her life normally (well, normal for her). When the cardiologist saw her, he said she would live to be 2 to 2 1/2. She will be 2 1/2 in March and other than tiring out easily, doesn't show any signs of worsening. She doesn't have a cough, which is a very good thing. I will talk to the vet and see what she recommends and continue to research from the site you recommended, Sharlene.

Thanks for the input!
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Posted 09 January 2011 - 09:20 PM

Deb,

I had to keep Frannie on a low protein diet-she got a fish oil pill once a day-toward the end I just let her have home cooked meals that were low in protein & low oxalate vegs & fruit. She loved her home cooked meals till right before she got so very sick. I can send you the yahoo group for dogs with health problems like Jammies if you would like.

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Neither our vet or the cardiologist recommended any special diet for Jammies. The cardiologist more or less said to take her home and let her live her life normally (well, normal for her). When the cardiologist saw her, he said she would live to be 2 to 2 1/2. She will be 2 1/2 in March and other than tiring out easily, doesn't show any signs of worsening. She doesn't have a cough, which is a very good thing. I will talk to the vet and see what she recommends and continue to research from the site you recommended, Sharlene.

Thanks for the input!


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Posted 10 January 2011 - 09:04 AM

Deb,

I had to keep Frannie on a low protein diet-she got a fish oil pill once a day-toward the end I just let her have home cooked meals that were low in protein & low oxalate vegs & fruit. She loved her home cooked meals till right before she got so very sick. I can send you the yahoo group for dogs with health problems like Jammies if you would like.

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Thanks Pat...yes I would like the info on the yahoo group.
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Posted 10 January 2011 - 09:24 AM

Debbie, I was on a Yahoo group for nutritional/diet advice when my elderly kitty was struggling through chronic kidney disease. Wonderful information, people with a lot of knowledge and always willing to help.
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 04:24 PM

I know there are all kinds of special diet recommendations for dogs with kidney, bladder, liver and thyroid issues, but not sure about heart problems. I would think that a good quality kibble with few or no grains, not too much fat and from a good source would be fine.

Debbie, have you thought about contacting a specialist, like Sabine, for a made-to-measure diet for Jammies? You can PM Missy for Sabine's contact info, or Sharlene might have it too.
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 04:33 PM

Debbie, I have Sabine's contact information readily available if you are interested.
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Posted 12 January 2011 - 05:32 PM

Thanks Marj and Sharlene. I have Sabine's information saved in my favorites from the olden days at HT.
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 11:39 AM

I have contacted Sabine and completed the Client Questionnaire. She should be getting back to me in a week or so with a diet for Jammies. I am anxious to hear what she has to say. I chose a diet with commercial food enhanced with fresh additions. Jammies and Shannon will be happy with the fresh additions, I'm sure!
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Posted 18 January 2011 - 06:13 PM

Good idea, Debbie! I'm looking forward to hearing what she has to say. :)
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 11:44 PM

I received the info from Sabine tonight regarding her recommendations for Jammies. She based them on my choice of feeding Jammies commercial food plus fresh additives. She also suggested supplements for Jammies and I went ahead and ordered them from Amazon.com. Based on Jammies weight, she recommended that she is on a 425 calorie diet per day. Jammies weighs 7.5 lbs. She also recommends 75-80% commercial and 20-25% additions (since I chose commercial as part of the plan).

Sabrine doesn't think kibble is the best thing to feed your dog, so I am going to limit it to a minimum. I like the dogs to have some kibble for grazing, although this might change as I see how the new feeding program works. This is what she recommended: Wellness Core Reduced Fat, NOW Senior/Weight Management Formula and Avoderm Natural Senior Chicken Meal & Brown Rice. I am going to go with the Wellness Core.

For the canned food, she gave me 9 recommendations. I am going to go with Nature's Variety-Instinct 95% meat, chicken, beef or lamb. Other brands included Old Mother Hubbard, Newman's Own Organics, Blue Seal, Castor & Pollux Natural Ultra Mix, Wellpet-Holistic Select and Petcurean-Go! Natural. She recommended that all of the canned food be 95% meat or more.

The consultation is very thorough and was 21 pages long. Tomorrow I will go out and get the commercial food. We have a dog training center nearby that stocks what I need to buy.

Again, these were recommendations for Jammies based on the information that I gave Sabine. I know nothing is going to cure Jammies' heart, but I want to know that I've done everything possible to not make it worse. I love this lil hoodlum more than I ever thought was humanly possible. :heartkiss:
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Posted 03 February 2011 - 07:46 AM

I always thought her consultations were very thorough. IMO well worth the money spent. Sounds like you made some good choices. When we were on canned food, I really liked the Petcurean-Go NOW grain free. It just is not that easy to get. That is what I took with us when we took our 9-day trip and probably what I will do on future trips. It's a lot easier to store cans than use up the little freezer/refrigerator space we have.

I hope you were happy with the consult and I hope Jammies enjoys her new yummy diet. Good luck.
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Posted 03 February 2011 - 06:01 PM

I'm glad you are happy with Sabine's full report and recommendations, Debbie! I look forward to hearing how well this plan works for you and your girls.
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 11:43 AM

I'm so glad you found something that will make you feel better about the care you are giving Jammies. I'm sure she will do great on those choices!
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I received the info from Sabine tonight regarding her recommendations for Jammies. She based them on my choice of feeding Jammies commercial food plus fresh additives. She also suggested supplements for Jammies and I went ahead and ordered them from Amazon.com. Based on Jammies weight, she recommended that she is on a 425 calorie diet per day. Jammies weighs 7.5 lbs. She also recommends 75-80% commercial and 20-25% additions (since I chose commercial as part of the plan).

Sabrine doesn't think kibble is the best thing to feed your dog, so I am going to limit it to a minimum. I like the dogs to have some kibble for grazing, although this might change as I see how the new feeding program works. This is what she recommended: Wellness Core Reduced Fat, NOW Senior/Weight Management Formula and Avoderm Natural Senior Chicken Meal & Brown Rice. I am going to go with the Wellness Core.

For the canned food, she gave me 9 recommendations. I am going to go with Nature's Variety-Instinct 95% meat, chicken, beef or lamb. Other brands included Old Mother Hubbard, Newman's Own Organics, Blue Seal, Castor & Pollux Natural Ultra Mix, Wellpet-Holistic Select and Petcurean-Go! Natural. She recommended that all of the canned food be 95% meat or more.

The consultation is very thorough and was 21 pages long. Tomorrow I will go out and get the commercial food. We have a dog training center nearby that stocks what I need to buy.

Again, these were recommendations for Jammies based on the information that I gave Sabine. I know nothing is going to cure Jammies' heart, but I want to know that I've done everything possible to not make it worse. I love this lil hoodlum more than I ever thought was humanly possible. :heartkiss:


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Posted 16 February 2011 - 11:10 AM

I need Sabine's contact info for a friend who's havanese just had surgery for calcium stones. Dr wants her to feed Urinary SO by Royal Canin and thankfully they know better! They need a diet for him
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Posted 16 February 2011 - 11:57 AM

Janet, they can email Sabine at ask@betterdogcare.com. They can check out her website at http://betterdogcare.com. There it will list the services she provides and the different dietary consultations available. It does usually take about a month for her to complete the consultation after she receives the questionairre they will have to fill out.
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Posted 25 August 2011 - 11:11 AM

Debbie, I have Sabine's contact information readily available if you are interested.



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Posted 25 August 2011 - 01:22 PM

I've always found their newsletters are a valuable resource for a great holistic alternative to veterinary diets..

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